A Hhcker named Guccifer2.0 is the source of the newest DNCLeaksseehttps://guccifer2.wordpress.com/2016/06/15/dnc/wikileaks mentioned at bottomHe is a lone wolf Romanian with no ties to Russiaseehttp://motherboard.vice.com/read/dnc-hacker-guccifer-20-interviewhe claims responsibility for the newest leaks on his twitter https://twitter.com/GUCCIFER_2/status/756530278982684672DNC is laundering their "Russian" narrative through their in house security firm CrowStrike to make Trump look bad! Spread this shit!
>>82622540Bump, this seems important.
>>82622540If this is true then DNC just dug their own grave with the Trump/Putin headline. Perfect way to let everyone know they are freaking the fuck out, and validate everyone's suspicions of them being corrupt to the bone.
>yfw a dirty gypsy takes town the Democratic party
>>82622540This shit gets even better
>>82623007Have the gyppos finally contributed something of worth to society?
How do we go about combating the Cold War pinko hysteria? The Democrats REALLY want to blame Russia.
Will the media set the record straight? No.
HERE IS HILLARY'S NARRATIVEhttp://www.defenseone.com/technology/2016/07/how-putin-weaponized-wikileaks-influence-election-american-president/130163/?oref=d-topstoryclaims that ClowdStrike, contracted DNC security firm found evidence of intrusion on their networks. However, if you read the firsthand account from Clowdstrike's blog, they say they only found out about the breech AFTER preliminary docs were already releasedhttps://www.crowdstrike.com/blog/bears-midst-intrusion-democratic-national-committee/> On June 15, 2016 a blog post to a WordPress site authored by an individual using the moniker Guccifer 2.0 claiming credit for breaching the Democratic National Committee. This blog post presents documents alleged to have originated from the DNC.They then go on to claim ties to known Russian state hacker groups COZY BEAR and FANCY BEAR with no evidence.Guccifer did an interview earlier this month with Motherboardhttp://motherboard.vice.com/read/dnc-hacker-guccifer-20-interview>“I don't like Russians and their foreign policy. I hate being attributed to Russia,” he said, adding that he was from Romania, just like the first Guccifer. Guccifer2.0 being an homage to another Romanian hacker 'Guccifer' who hacked the DNC servers in 2014From a prelimary release of the hacked files from his wordpress site Guccifer2.0 states he will give the files to wikileaks (this update, published July 15th, was BEFORE wikileaks published the e-mails)https://guccifer2.wordpress.com/2016/06/15/dnc/>The main part of the papers, thousands of files and mails, I gave to Wikileaks. They will publish them soon.On 22 July, Wikileaks published the files and Guccifer2.0 confirmed they were the files he'd given themhttps://twitter.com/GUCCIFER_2/status/756530278982684672SPREAD THIS WHEREVER YOU CAN
>>82623007>>82623592American education
>>82622540nice.based haxxor
What do we do about this?
>>82622540
>>82622862Naw, the media will go along with it. I guarantee you. Even if they do correct themselves, it'll be after a week's worth of blasting this story all over the place, and the correction will take place at 2 AM on a Monday morning and only happen once.
>>82624355
>>82622540Are Guccifer and Guccifer 2.0 even the same person?
>>82622540>>82623994You're wasting your time doing damage control, RIDF.Nobody here gives a shit that Russian intelligence is behind it (and there is plenty of evidence of this outside of DNC and crowdstrike)Most here are Putinboos anyway and welcome the assistanceunironically posting a shitty VICE site as a source shows you need to lurk more btw
>>82624404>>82622540I'm not sure about that. It looks like releasing these emails right before the DNC is in Russia's interest.
>>82624407no Guccifer is in jail for hacking the DNC in 2014Guccifer2.0 only appeared earlier this month with a new leak see>>82623994>>82624497fuck off shill, just because something happens in someone's interest doesn't mean they're directly responsible
>>82624407No, Guccifer is in a prison in Virginia.
>>82624198>not knowing that the PC term for Gypsy is "Romani" in an attempt to connect Gypsy swine to Romania
Gucci 2.0 literally doing Kek's work. I like how most media outlets with even a shred of dignity haven't touched the accusation from Hillary's camp yet. Goes to show how desperate CNN and HuffPo are to control the spin.
>>82622540Thank you based-gypsy
>>82622540Russia isn't kike runtheres the problem.. they need cultural enrichment and kike leaders.. Russia will be amazing after.im telling you gouyyynuke israel off the fucking mapstop this bullshit.. fuck the kikes. they live free behind the wall... we die with enrichment.. fuck the kikes..
>>82624479I'm not russian.>(and there is plenty of evidence of this outside of DNC and crowdstrike)There is none besides conjecture, or would you like to show some?>unironically posting a shitty VICE site as a source shows you need to lurk more btwit's the only place he's done an interview and it only goes to show that he's not directly tied to Russia.
>>82624479shill fuck off it was a romanian gypsy working on his windows 95 pc that he stole the parts for. Stop selling them short m8 they do good work
>>82624479If the Democrats are being stupid panicky retards, it helps us to prove that their target is a hologram. >shitty Vice siteIt's an interview. It's G2.0's own words. Don't shoot the messenger.
>>82624934>Get's direct proofs it wasn't Russia>It was Russia ! Down with RIDL !
Guccifer 2.0 here. Glad you guys like my work. Ask me anything
Is this legit? Even if it is, I doubt the media will correct themselves and just keep pulling more "muh ebul Russians are behind it" out of their ass.
>>82625075What inspired you to do this?I'm not being accusatory, I'm honestly curious.
>>82622540>He is a lone wolf Romanian with no ties to Russiasee>http://motherboard.vice.com/read/dnc-hacker-guccifer-20-interviewVice later concluded he was likely a Russian hacker:https://motherboard.vice.com/read/guccifer-20-is-likely-a-russian-government-attempt-to-cover-up-their-own-hackare you trying to be misleading?
>>82625366Chicks. I'm tryna get laid, brah
>>82624297Doesn't matter who it helped.What matters is it hurt Hillary and the DNCThey're still guilty as fuck
>>82625075whats your favorite dnc email?
>>82625075How would one get involved in your line of work?
>>82625366We have reached shitposting levels we thought could not be reached before
>>82625393>likely>likely>likelyUh-huh.
>>82625393I'm looking into it give me a second
>>82625075were there any Hillary nudes? pls dump
>>82625393That article was published before anyone knew who Guccifer 2.0 was exactly and before they secured an interview with him. See OP's article, published 5 days after yours by the same author. Your article was conjecture that it was probably the Russians.
DOES NOT MATTER>what the source or affiliation washeads will rollconsequences will be real
>>82625877why do you cast doubt now when before you seemed so sure?
>>82626028>fap awayyou think they have dedicated servers for Hill-nudes?
>"We've been looking at this very closely from both the technical and non-technical spheres," said Rich Barger, chief information officer for ThreatConnect, a cyber intelligence software firm. "Based on our analysis, we strongly feel Guccifer 2 is linked to a Russian information operations campaign and is not the independent Romanian hacker that he claims to be."
>>82626290Russian? greatnot Russian? great>why is ALL the focus on the messenger?do not give two shits about the messenger.is it reliable
>>82626098Oh, sorry, I posted the older article:http://motherboard.vice.com/read/why-does-dnc-hacker-guccifer-20-talk-like-this>Despite claiming to be Romanian, Guccifer 2.0 didn’t seem to be a native Romanian speaker, according to several Romanians who reviewed the transcript of our conversation with him
>>82622540good work lad!
>>82626180that's not me, I'm OP but he looks rightthe first vice article states1. 2015–06-??: Russian Intelligence services penetrated the DNC and collected a large amount of information. [Collection]2. 2016–06-??: CrowdStrike purges them from the network [Blown]there's no evidence of this and the crowdstrike blog post is dated 15 July which leads me to think they released it in response to Guccifer's leakthere's no evidence of the connection to the russian groups besides the traces of what tools they used
>>82626263looks fake ive seen a few shops in my day
>>82625393>>82626180Also the 'expert' they claim doesn't seem all that expertish to me, he seems like a social climber and he posts pro-syrian shit on his Twitter, but that doesn't really mean anything
>>82626615>there's no evidence of the connection to the russian groups besides the traces of what tools they usedhttp://www.defenseone.com/technology/2016/07/how-putin-weaponized-wikileaks-influence-election-american-president/130163/Right, so there is evidence. Again, why do you people cast doubt when before you seemed so sure?
>>82626443from your same article>“All I can say is: no smoking gun here,” Connolly said in an email. “The English is very East Euro web talk, which Russians and Romanians and all Eastern Europeans share but, as I've pointed out already, many of the traits are non-Russian.”>For Connolly, the hacker could also be Moldovan, given that the country is a mixed Romanian-Russian environment and many Moldovans, especially the anti-Russian ones, “will identify as Romanian.”
>>82626290>we strongly feel"our analysis didn't yield any real proof of collusion but our gut thinks it was the Russians">>82626443"Whether that means Guccifer 2.0 really is a Russian agent or controlled by a group or Russian spies, we can’t really know at this point.">more conjecture
>>82622540Also the "experts" that said it was russia was due to the last modified metadata in some of the previous docs he leaked.Mind you this was "security professionals" on twitter who saw Cryllic letters and went "muh russia". The name in english was Felix Dzerzhinsky, the founder of the Soviet Secret Police force, who died in 1926. The name was used in a MS Office crack that is popular in Eastern Europe and Russia.It is extremely implausible that intelligence professionals would have a) been using a pirated copy of MS office b) been sloppy enough to modify, save, and then release the documentsOh also these same twitter security professionals were too stupid to look at the raw emails to figure out how a mail between two gmail addresses ended up in allenz's email box on dnc.org. The headers clearly indicate it was forwarded.So are these really experts in anything or just internet wannabe intelligence analyst gumshoes? Or are they right and the Kremlin is playing some never before seen metagame?Seems more likely its a "lonewolf" romainian.
>>82626895did you read that article? it references the blog post from 15 Julyhttps://www.crowdstrike.com/blog/bears-midst-intrusion-democratic-national-committee/that was published the same day of the Guccifer2.0 leaksit looks to me that they're used technobabble to try and hide the fact that there's no evidence that points to the russian groups they mention besides the tools they used, which are probably common in hacker circles>Again, why do you people cast doubt when before you seemed so sure?What are you asking? I'm just trying to show that there's more to the narrative then just 'yup its russkies' I tend not to believe anybody on the Clinton's bankroll considering their past and CrowdStrike doesn't show any evidence DIRECTLY tying the leaks to russians, not to mention their timing doesn't match up. I'm betting that they knew they were going to get their info leaked and made that article per-emptively so that they could say, here we knew about russians before these leaks, trusting that nobody would actually read the articles
>>82627098If the tone of the source matters so much to you:http://www.defenseone.com/technology/2016/07/how-putin-weaponized-wikileaks-influence-election-american-president/130163/>Close your eyes and imagine that a hacking group backed by Russian President Vladimir Putin broke into the email system of a major U.S. political party. The group stole thousands of sensitive messages and then published them through an obliging third party in a way that was strategically timed to influence the United States presidential election. Now open your eyes, because that’s what just happened.And I'm puzzled with your tone. Why so far have you asserted "Guccifer 2.0 was a lone wolf" as a fact and called every evidence to the contrary speculation?
>>82625075Are you anonymoos?
>>82627671how about you read that article and look to which sentences show evidence pointing to russia, the only evidence is from a link to the blog post here>>82627516Are you a fucking shill?>And I'm puzzled with your tone. Why so far have you asserted "Guccifer 2.0 was a lone wolf" as a fact and called every evidence to the contrary speculation?Guccifer2.0 was a lone wolf based on an interview he did, that there is no conclusive evidence otherwise, there is also no conclusive evidence it was russians either, so the same reasoning that it wasn't him, can also be used to say it was.
>>82625544Has it worked? If I posted my penis, would you compare it to yours and possibly offer tips for penis strengthening exercises?
>>82627516No, they found traces of a highly specialized tool used by Russia:https://www.fireeye.com/blog/threat-research/2015/07/hammertoss_stealthy.htmlI don't think there's enough proof to win a court case or start a war, but saying "it could be either way!" is misleading.
>>82626263To be honest, I would have a go at her. Probably after tonguing her stinker.
>>82627996>>82627516>Are you a fucking shill?I try not to be rude, but yeah I was wondering the same thing when I read that post.
>>82627671Guccifer 2.0 actually exists and has come forward to assert his claim as a lone wolf, while his ties to the Russian government are, in fact, speculation.
>>82628166that was from a piece done years earlier on a previous CONFIRMED instance of a hack done by the Russian groups. There is NO evidence that it was used in this recent hack. The CrowdStrike article doesn't mention it.
Did anyone seriously believe that russia was responsible?they obviously just said that to cover their own asses and to take the pressure of of themselves
>>82628166>>82628289honestly I think I might be onto something here based on how dedicated this guy is to trying denying it
>>82628398https://www2.fireeye.com/rs/848-DID-242/images/rpt-apt29-hammertoss.pdftraces of HAMERTOSS were what they found on the DNC servers.
>>82622540These leaks are what /cfg/ was going through originally. Fucking newfags.
>>82628671that paper is from last year shill, and doesn't mention anything about the DNCshow me a source that shows that HAMMERTOSS was used on the DNC
>>82624355That's some expert shillcraft.
>>82628529I have a hunch we both know more than we say. Why did you make this thread anyway? Why did you sound so sure in the OP when evidence points to the contrary?
>>82624386If that's the case, then /pol/ will have to force their hand./pol/ is tech savvy enough to implement something against media. Either they tell the truth or the media and everyone working for it will understand the price of treason.You know what to do, /pol/.
>>82628819what do you like about it?
>>82625884>Drowns himself in vodka
>>82628822The hell are you on about? I'm just a NEET who doesn't like corruption in politics. If this spreads around through reddit and twitter than maybe it will convince people to actually look into sources rather than just blindly believing what the MSM says. which, of course, we just found out colludes with politicians directly. Are you going to disappear me?btw, CrowdStrike said APT 29 "relied primarily on the SeaDaddy implant developed in Python and compiled with py2ex">>82629148I chuckled
>>82627411the problem they have is the evidence they release can never demonstrate anything they claimmost people don't care though
>>82623007You're welcome
>>82628811The original defenseone source explains it, but I guess this one is more clear:http://www.defenseone.com/technology/2016/06/what-joint-chiefs-email-hack-tells-us-about-dnc-breach/129089/HAMMERTOSS is the signature of ATP29, who crowd-strike detected as the attackers behind the DNC breach.
>>82629513OK, yep, you're a shillCrowdstrike said absolutely nothing about HAMMERTOSS in their report, there is no connection to APT 29
If you haven't noticed it, Wikileaks follows him on twitter
>>82628822>>82629513So if your hunch is correct, what else do you know? Do you think I'm a counter Hillary shill? How much do you get paid? Do you think I could do it?
>>82629287>they got me! better use some /pol/ buzzwords to try to convince them I'm one of them
Not saying that the Russians are behind all this (there needs to be concrete proof not just conjecture), but if I were the Russians or Putin or whatever, and trying to keep the origin of the leaks secret because the whole interfering in foreign elections thing would probably backfire, I don't think I would be retarded to outright say that I caused the leaks.
>>82623994>But when we asked him to explain to us how he hacked into the DNC in Romanian, he seemed to stall us, and said he didn’t want to “waste” his time doing that. The few short sentences he sent in Romanian were filled with mistakes, according to several Romanian native speakers.>The hacker said he left Russian metadata in the leaked documents as his personal ”watermark.” He also said he got kicked out of the network on June 12, when the DNC “rebooted their system.”
>>82629616No, I didn't link to their report, I linked to the defenseone article that discusses that report, and other things. They have more information.>On Tuesday, officials with the information security company Crowdstrike disclosed that APT29 had injected malware onto the DNC network about a year ago, enabling the hackers to pick up opposition research on Donald Trump, among other information. >That bears resemblance to what Crowdstrike just discovered APT29 doing to the DNC.Look, I'm finding out about the finer details of this case as we go along. It's neat I guess but that's not what I'm interested in. I want to know why you're so sure Guciffer 2.0 was a lone wolf.
>>82630161does this prove to you otherwise? I'm browsing /pol/ in the middle of the night on a monday morning for christs sake
>>82623007They are making up for slavs starting the first world war by preventing the third.
>>82630417all that is based on the assumption that Crowdstrike made in their report that there is a link between whoever hacked their servers and the two russian groups. There is nothing that point to that fact, besides their word. There isn't anything about the way it was hacked the is similar to previous hacks done by the Russian groups>I want to know why you're so sure Guciffer 2.0 was a lone wolf.What does it matter to you what some cunt says on an anonymous tibetan runecrafting imageboard? I've already told you why
Tip of the day *If you are an American Jew blame Russians.*
>>82631001>preventingYou mean accelerating. We're crashing this world with no copper.
>>82622540https://youtu.be/4-I5Y9Lkmo0
>>82630025Relax, my hunch is a little rude to be honest, but I guess it's worth explaining.I've been watching /pol/ for some time, seeing the narratives pushed and how certain posters react when those narratives are challenged. That, and a little digging into geopolitics>>82624355and reading the newshttp://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/31/world/europe/russia-finland-nato-trolls.html?_r=0http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-eu-35413134has lead me to believe pro-Putin shills have a heavy presence on /pol/. So when I saw this thread, and saw it being spammed into other threads as "proof" the Russians had nothing to do with the leaks, I got a little angry assuming this must be some attempt at a coverup.But I guess it's rude to treat you as a shill when you might not be, so I'm sorry if it seemed like I was grilling you. I actually would like to know your theories on why Guccifer 2.0 might be acting alone.
>>82631204well this is me if that shows you anything. >>82630655I don't give a fuck about Trump or Putin, I probably won't even vote this year. I really don't like Hillary thoughIf you follow my posts, it seems like the DNC found out they were hacked, paid off their in house security firm to release info saying it was russians in a verbouse blog post, then the MSM ran off with the story saying how it's proof the Russians were involved. All the subsequent media article work off the assumption made by CrowdStrike, which from what I can see is completely unfounded. There's nothing that connects the current hack to any previous hacks done by APT29
>>82624407No. This isn't like the first Guccifer. It is likely that the original Guccifer has somehow transferred his powers to another person. But how?
Unless*rock music*The original Guccifer is still hacking emails from WITHIN THE PRISON
>>82631204also, that "spamming" was all me, trying to get this information spread around
>>82622540Russians did it and a video making fun of Muhammad is the reason Benghazi was attacked, the sooner you deal with it, the sooner you can quit supporting trump or you are literally russian and you can quit making fun of Muhammad or you are literally a terrorist.
>>82622540These are pretty shit sources. I realize CNN and all the others are shit too, but you posted a fucking twitter and a WordPress. Cats and dogs have twitters and WordPress. Vice is debatable. I don't know them too well.
>>82632084that wordpress is a confirmed source of info leaked by Guccifer2.0, the twitter is also his, and is followed by Wikileaks, the Vice article only shows that he says he doesn't have ties to Russia, the important bit is that there is nothing linking the hack by Guccifer2.0 to previous hacks by confirmed state-sponsored Russian hackers, which is the basis of the claim that this is Russia interfering in American politics
>>82631522Right, I get it. So you're premise is that CrowdStrike is the sole primary source that Russia is responsible for the hack, and that their testimony is unreliable, is that right?
>>82632524that's pretty much it ye
>>82622540>not knowing about based GUCCIFERkys>>82624642romi not romani or just tzigani>>82624718he's not gypsy you faggot
>>82632598>>82632524also, in the blog post that supposedly showed proof, there was nothing in it the showed connection to Russia, which makes me wonder why they said so.So a bit more that just "I don't believe them"
Maybe it is actually the Russians, but the Russians had "Guccifer 2.0" give the information to Wikileaks? There's too many inconsistencies with Guccifer 2.0 for me to believe it's an actual hacker, though I think Wikileaks might possibly ignorant in the matter. Wikileaks also isn't exactly an unbiased source. Julian despises Hillary.
>>82632743>but the Russians had "Guccifer 2.0" give the information to Wikileaks?there's no evidence of this, certainly not enough for the media to run wild claiming undeniable proof>here's too many inconsistencies with Guccifer 2.0 such as?>Wikileaks also isn't exactly an unbiased source. Julian despises Hillary.Wikileaks has nothing to do with it, they just host the files, their political affiliations don't change what is being shown
>>82632723Yeah I hear you. My guess was they're saying the tools the used and traces they leave behind are marks of these groups, but they don't say that outright.Also here is a second investigation of the DNC hacks, reading that right now:http://www.threatgeek.com/2016/06/dnc_update.html
>>82633428Ok here's something:>1. The malware samples matched the description, form and function that was described in the CrowdStrike blog post.>2. The malware samples contained complex coding structures and utilized obfuscation techniques that we have seen advanced adversaries utilize in other investigations we have conducted. This wasn’t “Script Kiddie” stuff.>3. In addition, they were similar and at times identical to malware that other vendors have associated to these actor sets. So I think what they're saying is: we found virus files left behind from the attack, and these matched what we know these "FANCY BEAR" and "COZY BEAR" groups have used before.
>>82633428>. My guess was they're saying the tools the used and traces they leave behind are marks of these groups, I think that's the implication yes, but all the news stories are talking about HAMMERTOSS which literally has nothing to do with this particular hack. Also, the SeaDaddy program that CrowdStrike said Guccifer2.0 used can be found on google,https://github.com/pan-unit42/iocs/blob/master/seaduke/decompiled.py
>>82632935Admittedly I'm too tired type this stuff out (it's 5am)but here's some articles I read. Yes, they're Vice, but these articles seem fairly unbiased.http://motherboard.vice.com/read/guccifer-20-is-likely-a-russian-government-attempt-to-cover-up-their-own-hackhttp://motherboard.vice.com/read/dnc-hacker-guccifer-20-interviewhttp://motherboard.vice.com/read/why-does-dnc-hacker-guccifer-20-talk-like-thishttp://motherboard.vice.com/read/dnc-hacker-guccifer-20-denies-russian-link-says-attack-was-his-personal-project?trk_source=recommendedhttp://motherboard.vice.com/read/guccifer-2-claims-responsibility-for-dnc-email-dump?trk_source=recommended
>>82633703>>1. The malware samples matched the description, form and function that was described in the CrowdStrike blog post.I should hope so>2. The malware samples contained complex coding structures and utilized obfuscation techniques that we have seen advanced adversaries utilize in other investigations we have conducted. This wasn’t “Script Kiddie” stuff.Nobody thinks Guccifer2.0 wrote those tools, he just knew howto use them, google some of those "sample malware names" and you'll see they aren't hard to findgive me a sec I'm still reading
>>82622540HAHAHAHHAHAHA*does something risky*BY THE WAY I am NOT anon. If you think that I am anon then you are wrong bc I am most definitely not that person.
>>82633735Not exactly. That github posts "indicators" of attacks, which I believe are the pieces left behind in an attack. Cyber-security companies can share these to better defend against attacks.But to actually replicate the attack takes more than what is just installed in the computer, like delivery, command & control, and expertise in these tools. I think these indicators work because the elite groups know their tools and stick to them.
>>82634426>Not exactly. That github posts "indicators" of attacks, which I believe are the pieces left behind in an attack.No, it's a decombiled binary of the executable file itself, and it's just what I found on google. The point is that the tools are out there, which Guccifer2.0 said (somewhere, I think either in the interview or on his wordpress)
>>82625075Did NASA send you a copy of their pictures of your balls from space yet ?I hear they are putting them up at their offices
>>82634426Also, here are the other programs mentioned in CSs reportmimikatzhttps://github.com/gentilkiwi/mimikatzpy2exehttp://www.py2exe.org/and the code for the powershell script is in the article itself, and is just a way to set up a recurring instance of the program using a native windows tool, the important bit here is that it's heavily obfuscated, and wouldn't draw attention
>>82632638Thanks castravete murat bro, Intermarium wheN?
>>82625075Care e maneaua ta preferata?
>>82634686No, that's only the part of the malware that gets left behind. You still need a way to deliver the malware to the computer, which is harder than the malware itself. You also need a way to control the malware, which isn't easy. So that piece you see there is the easy part.Unit 42https://www.paloaltonetworks.com/threat-research/missionposted that to help threat other intelligence teams identify this kind of attack. They aren't some underground hacker group posting hacks or anything. You can hire them to investigate a cyber-crime scene.
>>82635413>No, that's only the part of the malware that gets left behind.I promise you, it's not. That's the decompiled binary itself, which can be reverse engineered to make an actual executable. And again, that's just what I found on page 1 of google>You still need a way to deliver the malware to the computer, which is harder than the malware itself. You're right, some of that is explained in CSs post by the tools used. which can be found on google. But saying that it's difficult to do doesn't change that it can be done. Maybe this Guccifer2.0 prick is just smart. The original Guccifer hacked a shit ton of people by guessing security questions and passwords. >You also need a way to control the malware, which isn't easy. Done using the X-Tunnel networking tool.here's some more reading material if you'd likehttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12008965https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11912412https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11948964
>>82635918Look, we're at the point of contradicting each other, so I think there isn't much more to say.What you posted absolutely is what's left behind by the attack. That's what Unit 42 collects. Otherwise, why is it a decompiled binary and not the source?You still need expertise in delivering the malware and using it, which we agree is very hard. If you have that expertise, why use somebody else's decompiled binary for the easy part? why not write your own?All these threat intelligence companies document and rely on these indicators (that is, files left-behind on the attacked computer) to identify the groups responsible for the attacks, and it looks like that's been their practice for awhile. Why should we doubt them now?
>>82637032>What you posted absolutely is what's left behind by the attack. That's what Unit 42 collects. Otherwise, why is it a decompiled binary and not the source?You might be right here, from what I read about the program itself it seems to have a self-destruct function. The point is with enough digging you could find the source, or reverse engineer the decompiled bit to make an identical program.>why not write your own?There's a common saying among programmers. "Don't reinvent the wheel". If you already know something works, why not use your time to figure out how to use it instead of trying to make something that might not?>Why should we doubt them now?This post might explainhttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11912615
>>82624355>>82624404I'm disappointed. You did not even implicate George Soros enough when he literally brags after the job is done. You are either new or a disinfo agent.George Soros funds the Black Lives Matter, ANTIFA, anti-European, left-wing agitator groups, funded FEMEN and a bunch of protesters to Baltimore and Ferguson to escalate the situation, the Ukraine conflict/coup that threw Yanukovych out of power, how migrants in the mid-East get funding and guides to go to Europe.George Soros either directly or indirectly funds these things, and Wikileaks (https://wikileaks.org/) / other leaks from reliable sources confirm that he is the guy pulling all the stringsVery few people in the media report on this when it happens, because of obvious reasons - money and influenceHere are some examples:https://i.imgur.com/9VoBF8d.jpghttp://dailycaller.com/2016/03/21/clinton-and-soros-are-behind-violent-riots-at-trump-rallies-not-sanders/http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/globalbusiness/12026144/George-Soros-pro-democracy-charity-banned-in-Russia-for-being-a-threat-to-state.htmlhttp://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/11/02/soros-admits-involvement-in-migrant-crisis-national-borders-are-the-obstacle/http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/616541/European-Union-Migrants-Refugees-George-Soros-Hungary-Viktor-Orban-Europehttp://news.sky.com/story/1551853/sky-finds-handbook-for-eu-bound-migrantshttp://www.reuters.com/article/us-ukraine-crisis-soros-idUSKBN0KH0NQ20150108http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jan/14/george-soros-funds-ferguson-protests-hopes-to-spur/?page=allhttp://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Ferguson-Missouri-paid-protesters/2015/05/25/id/646587/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Matters_for_America-=-=-=-=-=-Bill O'Reilly Exposes George Soroshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OQ3pRXN2GM
Holy shit, this thread is 3spooky5me. Are you two insiders or something? I don't know whether to listen to the guy who says it definitely is Russians, or the guy who says it probably isn't. On the one side, it could be a correct the record shill trying to push the Russia angle to scare people away from Trump, but on the other it's entirely realistic that the guy saying it's guccifer2.0 could be a Putin shill.
>>82638145To addTOP CONTRIBUTORS FOR HILLARY CLINTONSoros Fund Management: TOTAL $7,044,500https://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/contrib.php?cycle=2016&id=N00000019&type=fProof Soros was directly instructing Clinton on what to do as Secretary Statehttps://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/24651Soros, Alarmed by Trump, Pours Money into 2016 Racehttp://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-03-15/soros-alarmed-by-trump-pours-money-into-2016-raceMoveon.Org raising funds from Trump protests, warns more disruptions to comehttp://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/mar/13/moveonorg-raising-funds-from-trump-protests-warns-/Katrina Pierson, Trump's spokesperson points out George Soros' MoveOn.Orghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IC-BLD3_rREBillionaire George Soros funds $15M effort to stop Trump, mobilize Latinoshttp://latino.foxnews.com/latino/politics/2016/03/10/billionaire-smackdown-george-soros-funds-effort-to-stop-trump-mobilize-latinos/Pro-Hillary PAC Spending $1 Million to Hire Online Trollshttp://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/04/22/pro-hillary-pac-spending-1-million-to-hire-online-trolls/
>>82637517No, at that level of expertise, it's not clear that reverse engineering a malware binary and the infrastructure around it is easier than writing your own. Again, this is the easy part. Seeing a binary of it online does not mean any script kiddy can become a master hacker with it.Your hacker news post suggests Hillary probably wanted to blame sophisticated hackers so she wouldn't look bad. Are you saying CrowdStrike and Fidelis are lying and conspiring with Hillary? Do you have evidence of a conspiracy?
>>82638795stop being smart you faggot.we shitpost and frogpost here.
>>82638795>Again, this is the easy part.Well, I'm not a hacker and I doubt you are. Who knows how or why Guccifer2.0 did it? The point is, it's possible for a lone person to hack the DNC, which isn't known for it's network security.>Your hacker news post suggests Hillary probably wanted to blame sophisticated hackers so she wouldn't look bad.Which is exactly what has happened. The sophisticated hackers being the Russian groups. As for the firms,> "Management is off the hook since they don't have to admit that they were hacked by some kid and the security company gets the prestige of 'fighting and outsmarting a state actor' And everyone's job is more or less safe.">>82638860fuck off
>t-the russians found the info>t-t-that absolves hillary
>>82638145Yeah, that thread looks very hasty/unfinished. George Soros gets talked about later though.I think Soros is big part of the overarching conflict:> Soros (and U.S.?) does Internet propaganda to spread open-societies all over eastern europe> China and Russia freak out, call it "new form of warfare"> Soros tries it in Ukraine> Russian bear rage mode activates> Starts propaganda war retaliation against U.S.> Realizes that U.S. is caught with their pants down in creating ISIS to oust Assad> Helps brainwashing ISIS into making suicide bombing the West a part of their religion> Busses immigrants into Eruope> Propagandizes racism all over the EUso now they can force the U.S.'s hand to either:A) destroy ISIS for Russia/Assad, possibly get stuck in another 10 year quagmireB) Take the brunt of the terrorist attacks and the resulting crisis destabilizing the E.U and NATO (U.S. choice so far).Meanwhile the distrust in the government the whole mess has caused gives Russia an opportunity to install leaders more friendly to their cause.
>>82639631>Yeah, that thread looks very hasty/unfinished. George Soros gets talked about later thoughNice try, shill. I'm outta here. Fuck off. You sound like you didn't even spend enough time in /sg/ to manipulate information you're spewing ITT.
>>82639631I swear I'm not shilling or anything. I'm genuinely curious.> Realizes that U.S. is caught with their pants down in creating ISIS to oust AssadDo you have any more info on this? Something about ISIS becoming a thing always seemed fishy to me.> Busses immigrants into EruopeHow would Russia have a say in this? isn't Soros the one who sponsors the sort of extreme PC that allowed that to happen?
>>82639136I dunno, this argument is starting to sound weak to me. It sounds like you're saying: "forget about the industry wide practice of using left-behind malware files to identify the attackers, focus on this conspiracy theory about Hillary instead!" As if the difference being hacked by Guccifer 2.0 vs being hacked by the Russians is going to make a difference in her public image right now...Anyway I have to go to bed, but it's been good. I think I learned something from this. Good luck in your digging around. I hope one day both Hillary and Putin get exposed so we can finally know for sure what's going on. I'm sincerely worried about the safety of both my country and yours, and I think uncovering the truth is important for that.
>>82640631np senpai was funI'm less convinced now too to be honestgood luck