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by: D Gilmore
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Fun with a Photo
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Nov 16, 2005 7:36 AM
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Here's the fun:
Reilly and Parker
I'll post the techniques soon - gotta get to work right now...
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Re: Fun with a Photo
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Nov 16, 2005 8:46 AM
in response to: Patrick Sheffield
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Looks good Patrick
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Re: Fun with a Photo
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Nov 16, 2005 11:15 AM
in response to: David S.
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pretty cool, and if you watch it a couple times in a row it gives the erie optical illusion that, once the full picture is settled, it slowly, slightly, moves in the opposite direction.
Looking forward to reading about the technique to create it. And Patrick, I'm glad you found a way to put the "tiger" back in your posts.
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Re: Fun with a Photo
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Nov 17, 2005 12:08 PM
in response to: Patrick Sheffield
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Hey Patrick,
That is sweet. How is it done? Apple did something similar on the new Aperture web page. Looks great.
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Re: Fun with a Photo
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Nov 18, 2005 8:06 AM
in response to: Patrick Sheffield
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Hey, far out... I've been trying to figure out how to do something similar... I'm very interested in knowing the workflow...
I hope I can recreate in AE6.5, my video card can't support Motion
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Re: Fun with a Photo
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Nov 23, 2005 2:38 PM
in response to: Patrick Sheffield
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Okay, finally I have the time to post this. First of all, thanks to Jon Walker and his clip. He did his by hand, but offered that he thought it was possible to slice up a graphic in Adobe's ImageReady which comes with PhotoShop. He was right. First of all, this seems complicated, but it really doesn't take that long. It took much longer to write this down than it did to do it.
Load your graphic up in ImageReady (now would be a good time to note the pixel dimensions of it - you'll want them later when you reassemble in Motion).
Go up to the Slices pulldown menu and select Divide Slice... Now, what you put in here governs how many pieces your graphic will be divided into. Start out conservative here, say 8x10 - it may be easier on you if you keep the total count below 100. Obviously you can have more than that, but for the first time, keep it under 100. Remember how you sliced it columns/rows PLUS the width and height of the pieces, you're gonna need that info when you put it back together.
Now, go to the Optimize tab and select PNG-24 as the preset. You can use JPEG or GIF, but PNG has an alpha channel (important if your graphic is type or an irregular shape).
Select File/Save Optimized As... and in that file dialog select Format: Images Only. Go to Settings: and select Other... This will bring up an Output Settings window. I set mine to Slice no. (01, 02, 03...) and the rest as none. Click OK.
After you click Save, you should have an images directory (unless you changed it) with your 01.png, 02.png, etc.
As long as you kept the total number under 100, jump to the next step. If not, you may have to manually insert a leading zero into the filename
Open Quicktime Player and select Open Image Sequence and point it at your files. You now have a movie that is little rectangles of your image. Save it.
Crank up Motion. Load your movie. Click on it. Click Replicate. Go to the inspector tab for Replicator and put in the Rows/Columns from the step above. Twirl down the Size panel and put in the dimensions of your graphic minus the width and height of one of the pieces (this is because the replicator passes thru the center of the pieces). So if your width was 500 and height was 200 and you did 5 columns by 2 rows, each piece would be 10x10, so you'd put the size in as 490 wide by 190 tall.
Now you've got a replicator rectangle filled with the upper left hand corner of your original graphic. Change the Origin to Upper Left, the Build Style to be By Row, and down near the bottom, unset the Play Frames, and change the Source Frame Offset to 1.
Holy Smokes! There's your original graphic assembled out of pieces. Now, you'll see lines thru the graphic. This is because of Motion's dirty little secret. It anti-aliases everything! Nothing you can do about it. I dissolved to the original graphic.
Now you can do whatever you want with the pieces. I did an Orbit Around to create the "Fun With" movie, then reversed it so everything would assemble. You can also throw a sphere filter on the replicator piece and turn everything into little balls. You can sequence the replicator.
Here's a zip of the project that I used to create the above movie.
Have fun... post some of your experiments...
Patrick
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Re: Fun with a Photo
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Nov 25, 2005 1:06 AM
in response to: Patrick Sheffield
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Thanks very much for this Patrick. Easy when you explain it. You have a very creative mind!
For those without Photoshop you can slice an image for free using Gimp and this plugin: Webotine
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Re: Fun with a Photo
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Dec 29, 2005 5:43 AM
in response to: i5m
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A better way to do it in Gimp
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Re: Fun with a Photo
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Dec 29, 2005 3:16 PM
in response to: Patrick Sheffield
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Thanks for posting all that! Tried it out for fun and can see a myriad of uses...
Question, though. I made a Motion project that used a still I captured from DVDSP (so I could use it as a menu in a project). I followed your instructions and divided it into 10 rows/9 columns, so the size replicator tab was 464 high by 624 wide (subtracting from the 480/720 per your instructions).
Now here's the oddity. You said to have the offset at 1 (and I noticed the source was 1 on your project as well). When I had those settings on my project, it made the project off by two columns (the last two columns on the right hand side of the image ended up being the first two on the left). In playing with settings, I got everything to line up perfectly by having the Source set to 6 and the Offset set to 2.
Any ideas what I did wrong?
Thanks again for a fun project. (if you want to see what I did: http://www.jonathanfrank.com/bette.mov)
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Re: Fun with a Photo
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Dec 30, 2005 1:29 PM
in response to: Jonathan Frank2
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are you playing around with the wrong offset?
I.e Tile Offset when you should be doing Source Frame Offset?
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Re: Fun with a Photo
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Dec 31, 2005 9:15 AM
in response to: i5m
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[are you playing around with the wrong offset?
I.e Tile Offset when you should be doing Source Frame Offset? ]
I'm not sure, as I am not finding any place that gives those options. Under the Inspector/Replicator tab I have
Shape:"rectangle"
Arrangement: "Tile Fill"
Origin: "Upper left"
Build Style: "By Row"
Show Objects as: "Image"
I noticed that if I have "Play Frames" checked I can have it as Source Start Frame=1 and Source Frames Offset=2
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Re: Fun with a Photo
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Dec 31, 2005 10:55 AM
in response to: Jonathan Frank2
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There should be a "Cell Controls" section (might have to click on the disclosure triangle) which contains the Source Frame offset.
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Re: Fun with a Photo
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Dec 30, 2005 2:21 PM
in response to: Patrick Sheffield
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Patrick, I'm just getting caught up on posts, this is a great idea, thanks for explaining in detail how to do it. Just tried it out, worked like a charm.
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Re: Fun with a Photo
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Dec 30, 2005 4:39 PM
in response to: Patrick Sheffield
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soo Pat your going to add that tip to http://www.proapptips.com ?
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Re: Fun with a Photo
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Jan 22, 2006 6:42 PM
in response to: David Slater
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Patrick,
I'm stuck at the "Open Quicktime Player and select Open Image Sequence and point it at your files." What I point to is a folder titled "Images" inside are 64 seperate png files (my image is a square logo 8x8). I cannot select the folder nor can I select all the .png files at the same time.
What am I missing?
thanks
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Re: Fun with a Photo
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Jan 23, 2006 6:32 AM
in response to: D Gilmore
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Doug,
I'm guessing that you have QT Pro (or it wouldn't let you select "Open Image Sequence..."). Does it let you go into the folder? Are your stills sequentially numbered?
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Re: Fun with a Photo
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Jan 23, 2006 10:34 AM
in response to: Patrick Sheffield
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Patrick,
Thank you for responding. I was able to open the image folder and the stills are sequentially numbered. I do not have QT Pro, would it make a difference if I did have it?
Doug
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Re: Fun with a Photo
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Jan 23, 2006 11:36 AM
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I don't think you can open an image sequence without QT Pro... I don't have any non-QTPro systems immediately available to check with. You can try assembling it in Motion (it will open image sequences)...
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Re: Fun with a Photo
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Jan 23, 2006 12:40 PM
in response to: Patrick Sheffield
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Thank you Patrick.
When I get back to my studio, I will try it using Motion and if that doesn't work, I guess I'll buy QT Pro.
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